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Tarkan,
IMO : the question from the beginning has been: was the name leak for political gain.
If it was a question of written basic standard straightforward strict law and regulations owing to mechanisms within your own government, i.e. in regards to a statue of limitations on officers NOC nonwithstanding or not, the publics curiousity would never have been aroused enough to warrant the slightest media attention.
Apparently you are not allowed to drop names of agents period, it seem's to reporters et al , and esp it seems to stir contentions and arouse tempests in tea pots...esp when is concerning matters as highly politically sensitive (and not national security sensitive) as motivations for a nation to go to war.
The ensuing controversy that ensued was enough to distract readers from Mr.Wilsons articles and "testimony" in the annals of the public press.
When an investigation began and now ended, it appears Mr. Libby was culpable in obstructing the course of justive which would ostensibly end its course and path of action by vanquishing the quest for answers.
In doing so he broke the law. Unwittingly perhaps but that in itself is a further question that will no doubt be pursued with vigour by his party in an effort to further exonerate him self.
Theres no doubt its political but it does make one wonder with both amazement and admiration at the turning of wheel s at the justice system in motion.
At least from this vantage point in Canada.
Yours with regards
Mach
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BFC POLITICS
note to coldharvest: no such thing as stupid questions. some might even argue that further by saying: only stupid replies.
It took more nrg for Kurt to ban me than to simply let all posters live and let live without his casual interference.
Unlike Mr Libby, Kurt seems to have an exacting type memory. The difference is in how it serves. His seems to serve him solely to justify repeated banning whereas my recall ability seems to indicate that although a few remaining questions about the incident remain, I do have both feet firmly planted in the present.
Unlike him, constantly quoting and referring to yesteryear and even years before that.
Thats called living in the past. How ironic that natives have often been disparingly told to get with the 21st century. Now that the opportunity looms on the horizon, its people like cold and kurt who stand to be left behind by not adapting. Of course, they can always trade faces between on line and off line, be one person online and another in rl (criminal trademarks I take it)
but there is no real lead to take here. Only a course correction. Everyone in the world knows that by now. Thats why native american wisdom gets a shunt. But it is funny how a return to it now makes sense.
As indicated by the clear political stance of all who support Kurts ban on my posting, its clear he just doesnt like me but also allows him self to be used by the right wingers as the perfect excuse to carry out his ban and clearly sales and people using the Black Flag to sell things (or promote them-lol) is not the issue.
The issue is: who gets to use their political stance to influence peddle to help Kurt reach his decision? The political right.
IN the case of Libby, I think Fitz was as unpolitically un-biased as they come. Which is exactly why its a beatific thing to see the wheels of justice in motion. Even for an instant.
caffeinatedSee, now take a look @ this .
The mortality in South Africa and the Philippines fades away to insignificance. Here, in the heart of peace, is where the blood is being shed; and here not even the civilized rules of warfare obtain, for the women and children and babes in the arms are killed just as ferociously as the men are killed. War! In England, every year, 500,000 men, women, and children, engaged in the various industries, are killed and disabled, or are injured to disablement by disease.
In the West End eighteen per cent of the children die before five years of age; in the East End fifty-five per cent of the children die before five years of age. And there are streets in London where, out of every one hundred children born in a year, fifty die during the next year; and of the fifty that remain, twenty-five die before they are five years old. Slaughter! Herod did not do quite so badly -- his was a mere fifty per cent bagatelle mortality.
Something perfectly fine to post in conjunction with travel to the worlds most dangerous places.
Something compatible for anonymous posters to revel in, to stimulate discussion, talk about and add and tuck away with the various compendium sources of info that makes one appear more well rounded.
And now this.
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I wonder if "Coldharvest" knows anything about the rigors of travel on or about the turn of the century. U-h-h, speaking of "open mouth"... :O
WE can see here that the forum is not a place for healthy and like minded individuals to congregate. By appearance, the forum is a place where individuals go strictly to attempt to DOMINATE others.
In other forum circles, threads that do not hold and fancy your attention or interest are routinely ignored, other forum users whom you do not identify with are not routinely engaged, let alone targeted as is deemed culpable by the boards operators and owners.
Normally I wouldnt comment but this was too good to pass by. Its a good post, unfortunately Kurt the moderator seems to be setting the trend for people to disengage from thinking capacity, like the mainstream news itself, choosing instead to let the board thrive on and let 'reaction' drive its main engine.
Supposedly in theory this is why we should remain critical of the main stream media, but the BFC preaches one thing in principle and yet remains in tandem lock step with the very institutions it criticizes. Without which btw, it wold forever be lost in the world of ALTERNATE media.
Unlike Machs Cafe eh? I dont need BFC, but they set themselves up as an example of what typically happens when anti-societal elements manage to create a hovel and haven for themselves.
I now proposition that whether or not the entire Internet is in fact entirely a tool that is by itself and through its whole construct: ANTI-SOCIETAL will one day be a question asked by dozens of experts.
I believe this question to be on the future cutting edge of societys current preoccupation and interest in useful and un-uaeful information.
Too many people, the Internet is a dream world. Truly.
In turn of the century London, someone like Coldharvest would simply be living and waking up to a literal nightmare and a foil of lightstalker, who would simply wake up everyday wondering what has become of life and death on the other side of the river.
Unfortunately though, no one on the Flag enjoys carrying things to such depths as to where we have all been in the past 100 years.
"The future is now, the future is here and thats all there is to it" is the going gamble and cause for excitement .
To me thats just reallly boring.
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And no, lol, Kurt, I am noit going to respond to your backbiting on the thread I created for 'Mach wants to know'..
seeing how everyone is so concerned more with
"BRITNEYS SUICIDE ATTEMPT!!!"
as reported by News of the World and National Enquirer.
Chuckles.
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...,when, the Internet becomes a source of fascination all to itself and unto its own?
When will the eventual confluence of information from disparate sources meet, tangle, unravel and form again to make a tapestry of truth we can all understand and appreciate?
As the glaciers melt along with barriers between people commerce and trade, ocean levels may rise, weather may play havoc and we will be forced to become New Yorkers again one and all rather than Californians on a good day off.
Dont bother if you cant understand this just yet.
But this is fascinating unto itself, and as I find it, so you may very well find it the same way too.
lazyThe planet is facing a cultural crisis that is more drastic than the threat of global warming and the loss of endangered species, says Wade Davis
National Geographic Explorer-in-Residence Wade Davis
| National Geographic explorer tells of travels Speaking at Penn State Berks, Wade Davis says trips to Peru, Malaysia, Haiti and other places have helped him understand the importance of human diversity |
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I dont know why I was ranting earlier but offer no apologies should you wander in here and discover my distaste for wearers of pink camouflage which has no useful purpose but to visually insult green camou, tan camou, even blue and white...so..........- ,--yah!
crushed outIf I were a DJ, and this blog were a radio station
I would have to say this one goes out to all my friends and enemies who frequent the Black Flag Cafe
think of it as my way of saying I hope some of you dont flex too long on your own muscles in the mirror and start to begin to lose your touch..
there might be something to be said in the danger of complacency setting in when counter-culture becomes the norm
...but you wont find me saying anything about it here!
Thought the Cafe could use some rev.
RYP you need a V-neck chequered sweater.
Please note, all manufacturing companies in countries in the EU must comply with new regulations to cease all advertising and labeling in dual metric and US measurements by Jan 1st,2010 and label all products in British Imperial measurements only.
Meanwhile all the woman of the world can hereby unite by fitting in all sizes regardless contintental differences.
That, from the world of fashion in the country of Spain. Also recently bombed again by ETA Basque seperatists but hardly would have noticed in between an oil tanker truck explosion in iraq and Columbian drug lords hidden cash finds.
caffeinatedENTERTAINMENT!
In the news today, LA Hollywood film and television executives were virtually overwhelmed and swarmed with emails and phone calls yesterday, sending secretarys and assistants home early and overwhelming email servers. Some offices closed early or put the phones onto answering machines. Thousands of writers and wanna be writers and their agents had unindated busy executives with film production scripts and storyboard ideas. The premise of all of these phone calls had one common theme; picture this: a female astonaut travels a thousand miles by car wearing a diaper to stalk a woman at an airport to end a bitter developing rivalry for the affections of another fellow astronaut. Frankly I cant wait! Heres how I would do it: opening scene a stampede of media personnel including tv cameras,flashbulb photographers and reporters wait outside a courtroom and jail and descend upon the exiting woman and her lawyer....yes folks, the stage is set. I hope at least its a movie of the week!
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But here , closer to home, theres another sadder story that sadly too also wont be considered for a MOTW>.
While well trained people and star astronauts wrestle in their lofty idealed minds of the passionate lengths they will go to achieve love and bliss even if it means following paths of the utmost danger, more simpler down to earth scenarios with more heart and soul ensconsed in them than soap-opera/ish flashy juicy tid bit news items about the love deluded space travelers.
Stories that will get backshelved, neglected, forgotten...will never make it to front pages of peoples minds as long as they remain endlessly concerned with other such items.
Yes, the ending of a career for a NASA employee who travels to space vis a vis criminal action is a sad story indeed.
But heres one of the saddest stories you will read all week.
Despite no movies of the week, it's one I hope is not so quickly forgotten and left alone among the detritus of the fallout from space astronauts in love. Most likely and probably and most certainly destined to be a movie of the week.
I hope it is too! Besides these sad stories we encounter .......we still feel that rousing need to feel entertained from time to time. As Hollywood knows, sometimes its so easy to pluck the stories from real life and the news.
But there are many stories we know we know we know that will be left un-told.
don't askA slap in the face of every Canadian
Globe and Mail, Canada - 4 Feb 2007
The catastrophe of native life in Canada is old news. Decades pass, reports are drafted, articles are published, and nothing happens. ...
(...or is that a slap in the face to every poster at the Black Flag Cafe including its ex-Canadian owner ROBERT YOUNG PELTON?)
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I see beauty in the eyes of youth. IN the graceful lines of a young girls gentle face, I see promise and potential...I see the abandoned dreams of every person who has sought for a better vision for themselves for others and their country that which includes ALL of its inhabitants...and I see those abandoned dreams being re-visited...that innate precious potential ressurected before its too late...before in five, ten, twenty years all we see are the faint outlines of promises we made at night and had forgotten in the cruel light of day...and we wrestle with concepts and arguments of yesteryear..contemplating into wee hours and getting sleepy merely talking about what we could have done, what we should have done..and what we would have done if only this or only that had not supplanted our more most precious of wishes
the beauty I see reflects the truest of bountiful and limitless
joy that is ensconsed in the souls hearts and minds of its most original inhabitants, the people with the most clearest and most vivid and best sense of appreciation for land they have called home which we have not really yet sought to appreciate at the same level having been steered b our own preconceptions of beauty and richness
This is a wide rich land and its most accurate reflection is held within the gaze of the peoples who have returned its affection and love of the land with the upmost sincerity and depth since a time immemorial
This is how and why I have come to see such beauty held within the eyes of youth. I hope its our optimism and reverence for our own lost sense of innocence that is contained within generations we can either fail or champion...that emboldens us every day to make choices even in the smallest of ways that reflect this affinity and desire to share this blessing of earth and song that is composed in this land ..with results that improves our own image of ourselves..ones in which we make all children who live to inherit our efforts....never endingly proud of our efforts to right what was once wrong.
I see the reflection of the beauty of the land in the eyes of a beautiful native girl; a sharp adherence to the love of the land that has preceded her by generations. May this beauty grow every day and may we contribute it to its potential in every way every day, like Mother Nature has blessed this land and allowed her peoples to survive every day.....
Meet Lizabell. She is 15...
